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Speaking Worlds into Existence with John Smith

A warehouse party in East London, late 1990’s. Upstairs - ad-hoc performances, art installations, experimental films. One of those films - John Smith’s 1976’s film The Girl Chewing Gum - was to become a major influence in what was yet to form a long-standing sequence of artistic explorations.
May 2024. A rainy Friday morning in Hackney, London. John Smith and Zhana Ivanova meet up to talk about words, about images, about speaking things into existence, and other such wonders.

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This talk was published in 2025.

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John Smith was born in Walthamstow, London in 1952. He studied at North-East London Polytechnic and the Royal College of Art, after which he became an active member of the London Filmmakers’ Co-op. Inspired in his formative years by conceptual art and structural film, but also fascinated by the immersive power of narrative and the spoken word, he has developed a diverse body of work that subverts the perceived boundaries between documentary, fiction, representation and abstraction. Often rooted in everyday life and personal experience, his meticulously crafted films playfully explore and expose the language of cinema. johnsmithfilms.com

Zhana Ivanova was born in Russe, Bulgaria in 1977. She was educated at DasArts Advanced Research in Performance, Amsterdam and was a resident at the Rijksakademie van Beeldende Kunsten, Amsterdam. Her artistic practice is multidisciplinary, with emphasis on performance. Using script-based approaches and performative mechanisms, featuring both rehearsed and unrehearsed performers, she induces live situations, where interpersonal relations are brought forward, unravelled and made to fluctuate. Language plays a key role, and power relations are of central interest. Her constructions are initially formal and rule-governed; yet within them she frequently exposes the ambiguity of her own rules. zhanaivanova.com

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References from the talk:
John Smith - The Girl Chewing Gum (1976) 16mm, 12 mins, B/W, sound
John Smith - The Black Tower (1985-87) 16mm, 24 mins, colour, sound
John Smith - Steve Hates Fish (2015) HD video, 5 mins, colour, sound

Zhana Ivanova - Borrowed Splendour (2007) performance, 20 mins
Zhana Ivanova - Predictions (2014) performance, 30 mins

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Zhana Ivanova